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Tuesday, August 29, 2017

Are Larry Berzett and Ron Livingston APOST Certified or Wannabes

Folks, the question of Larry Berzett’s and Ron Livingston’s APOST Certification continues to come up after all these years.  Below is the Alabama Open Record Request that was submitted to Mr. Louis Zook on January 12, 2014 and his response to the request.  The request went to Alabama Peace Officers Standards and Training Commission, RSA Union Building, 100 North Union St. - Suite 600, Post Office Box 300075, Montgomery, AL   36130-0075, Phone: (334) 242-4045, Fax : (334) 242-4633        

At the time the Alabama Open Request was submitted neither Berzett nor Livingston was APOST certified.  Mr. Zook recommended that the concerned citizen send their request to Mr. Luther Strange, who was the Alabama State Attorney General at the time the request was made.     

Response From Mr. Louis Zook, January 17, 2014.

Ms. Robinson:

This is in response to your January 17th  email requesting information.

APOST is charged with the training and certification of law enforcement officers. Law Enforcement officers by definition are persons who, in their official capacities, (36-21-40, et seq.) have the power of arrest. The exception to this is the elected Sheriff of each County and Constables. We do not regulate non-sworn persons such as jailers, dispatchers or school crossing guards, etc.

If a person working in the jail is vested with the power of arrest, then that person has been appointed a law enforcement officer subject to APOST regulations. I trust this answers your second question.

For an answer to your fist question, I refer you to the office of the Attorney General since APOSTC regulate only law enforcement officers.

Thank you for your inquiry.

The document was signed by Mr. Louis Zook.  The Open Record Request submitted to Zook is as follows:

Dated:  January 12, 2014

To Whom It May Concern:

Under the Alabama Open Records Law § 36-12-40 et seq.  I am requesting that the APOST Commission provide me a copy of the public writings listed below within 7 day of receipt of this request.  I understand from this above mentioned code that “every citizen has a right to inspect and take a copy of any public writing of this state.  The open records law does not stipulate that I must be from any specific county to request this documentation. 

     Please provide me the date of APOST training certification completed by Ron Livingston and Mr. Larry Berzett of the Morgan County, Alabama sheriff’s department.  I would like to know which class Mr. Livingston and Mr. Berzett attended and the location of course attended.  Mr. Livingston works for Sheriff Ana Franklin w/the position of Captain and Larry Berzett is now administrator of the Jail.   Both Mr. Livingston and Mr. Berzett are wearing deputy attire.  It is my desire to verify that both men are APOST certified. 

     My understanding of the training requirements is that the trainee must successfully complete 408 hours of basic training at an approved academy.  It is also my understanding that an applicant must have a minimum of one year experience as a gainfully employed, full time enforcement officer and must not have a break in service for more than two years following separation of employment as a law enforcement officer in said state.  Or obtain ten or more points based on a scheduled as identified in the APOST Administrative Code, Rule 650-X-4-.03.

If there are any fees for searching or copying these records, please inform me if the cost.  It is my understanding per the Code of Alabama 1975 Section 36-12-40 However, I would also like to request a waiver of all fees in that the disclosure of the requested information is in the public interest and will contribute significantly to the public’s understanding of the Sheriff’s promise for full disclosure.  This information is not being sought for commercial purposes.

The statute requires a response in a reasonable time period.  If access to the records I am requesting will take longer 7 days, please contact me in writing with information about when I might expect copies or the ability to inspect the requested records.

If you deny any or all of this request, please cite each specific exemption you feel justifies the refusal to release the information and notify me of the appeal procedures available to me under the law. 

Please advise me immediately if you need clarification of any part of my request.

Thank you for considering my request.


xxxxxxxx Robinson
Falkville, Alabama 35622


  1. wow well you got to figure if she hires a convicted felon to check inmates into the jail...there is no telling what her and her thugs have signed and approved. Ana does not have to follow rules.

  2. There are no Apostles #'s in their files. Livingston even tried to get a copy of his sons and use it, edited of course, there is no record of Berzett either according to rules and laws you must go to Apost within the 1st 6mos to 1year of being sworn in. Look that up too